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Friday, September 15, 2006
Agreed.
We've got no Dave Lewis on Sunday which we shouldn't notice as we've got a Wayne and a Miller who have both got the taste for goals.
We're without Macca as well but have Ben and Gareth both available, who have both got the taste for goals.
When we played Kennet last time they were quite good coming forward but susceptible at the back. They're strikers are 'physical' - not in an aggressive way but they like to bump, nudge and pull you off your balance to try and get a yard. They were also quite dangerous in the air so we'll need to get the back four jumping well for corners and set pieces. We should take no credit for having beaten them once already as look how much we've changed this then!
We've got no Dave Lewis on Sunday which we shouldn't notice as we've got a Wayne and a Miller who have both got the taste for goals.
We're without Macca as well but have Ben and Gareth both available, who have both got the taste for goals.
When we played Kennet last time they were quite good coming forward but susceptible at the back. They're strikers are 'physical' - not in an aggressive way but they like to bump, nudge and pull you off your balance to try and get a yard. They were also quite dangerous in the air so we'll need to get the back four jumping well for corners and set pieces. We should take no credit for having beaten them once already as look how much we've changed this then!
Hi Beeny,
Everything you said is right and fair.
It seems that maybe people's understanding of what their input would be didn't necessarily match with other people's and that caused some friction, which is a shame.
Sadly, whatever anyone says they heard/said or didn't hear/say, there was some sniping going on. Dunno whether you noticed but I had to walk away from you and Grundy during the Buckleberry game because of what I was hearing and seeing. Thought it was out of order.
But as I said earlier, these things are better off out in the open and I hate holding grudges - life's too short. Hopefully we can all look each other in the eye now and move on from it. And on that note I think I owe Grundy an explanation about the Bucklebury game as we haven't really spoken since...
Start: Smurf was going to ask you to do the subs in the second half but by pure coincidence Macca handed you the flag to go and run the line. I fully expected you to get someone else to do the line but fair play to you you took it without complaining. Sadly for you, that left Smurf without his right hand man so, knowing that I've done it in the past, he asked me if I would do it.
When the time came to make the subs I'd been having a good look at the game and felt that we were starting to take control, creating more and more chances and they were starting to tire. So I felt that pace would be our best option. I had Miller, Macca and yourself to choose from, so I plumped for Macca and Miller to put a bit of firepower into the team. Absolutely no detriment to you whatsoever. There was no negative thoughts towards you at all in that decision. If we'd been getting over run in midfield or been struggling to get the ball forward with any quality, I'd have stuck you on there and left Miller out. Simple as that.
I hope you believe me in that there was no malice in the decision. Everything above is exactly how it happened and how I thought about it. :End
Now, can we please all grow up a bit, we're men not boys and this sort of thing does morale and team spirit no good at all. Hopefully it hasn't affected the youngsters too much already. Like I said above, I don't bear grudges and it's better to judge a person by their actions in the present rather than what might have happened in the past. I would hope that there'll be no problems with Smurf giving Grundy his signing on fee back and doing whatever transfer documents are necessary for the league - absolutelt no reason for us to be awkward or make things difficult.
Big deep breath, nice cold beer, and there we are.
Everything you said is right and fair.
It seems that maybe people's understanding of what their input would be didn't necessarily match with other people's and that caused some friction, which is a shame.
Sadly, whatever anyone says they heard/said or didn't hear/say, there was some sniping going on. Dunno whether you noticed but I had to walk away from you and Grundy during the Buckleberry game because of what I was hearing and seeing. Thought it was out of order.
But as I said earlier, these things are better off out in the open and I hate holding grudges - life's too short. Hopefully we can all look each other in the eye now and move on from it. And on that note I think I owe Grundy an explanation about the Bucklebury game as we haven't really spoken since...
Start: Smurf was going to ask you to do the subs in the second half but by pure coincidence Macca handed you the flag to go and run the line. I fully expected you to get someone else to do the line but fair play to you you took it without complaining. Sadly for you, that left Smurf without his right hand man so, knowing that I've done it in the past, he asked me if I would do it.
When the time came to make the subs I'd been having a good look at the game and felt that we were starting to take control, creating more and more chances and they were starting to tire. So I felt that pace would be our best option. I had Miller, Macca and yourself to choose from, so I plumped for Macca and Miller to put a bit of firepower into the team. Absolutely no detriment to you whatsoever. There was no negative thoughts towards you at all in that decision. If we'd been getting over run in midfield or been struggling to get the ball forward with any quality, I'd have stuck you on there and left Miller out. Simple as that.
I hope you believe me in that there was no malice in the decision. Everything above is exactly how it happened and how I thought about it. :End
Now, can we please all grow up a bit, we're men not boys and this sort of thing does morale and team spirit no good at all. Hopefully it hasn't affected the youngsters too much already. Like I said above, I don't bear grudges and it's better to judge a person by their actions in the present rather than what might have happened in the past. I would hope that there'll be no problems with Smurf giving Grundy his signing on fee back and doing whatever transfer documents are necessary for the league - absolutelt no reason for us to be awkward or make things difficult.
Big deep breath, nice cold beer, and there we are.
It was a great goal, just came out of nowhere. Plus you don't get many Lewis headers to the pound!
Training at the prison sounds good. It might need to be a little later than 7pm if possible, but for a one off I'm sure everyone could make it at whatever time is available - even a wet and windy night in November!
Even John Sills might come. He's wet, and scores in the wind - best I could do.
Last year I think a lot of people lost 'the Shefford bug' slightly, results were showing that and obviously making things worse. Everything is very much improved already (including the talk of Saturday football! Grr!) this year, and results/performances are keep people keen. Plus, a night out one day will help!
Hmm... Beer.
Training at the prison sounds good. It might need to be a little later than 7pm if possible, but for a one off I'm sure everyone could make it at whatever time is available - even a wet and windy night in November!
Even John Sills might come. He's wet, and scores in the wind - best I could do.
Last year I think a lot of people lost 'the Shefford bug' slightly, results were showing that and obviously making things worse. Everything is very much improved already (including the talk of Saturday football! Grr!) this year, and results/performances are keep people keen. Plus, a night out one day will help!
Hmm... Beer.
I don't mean to cover old ground or take any sides as i wasn't at the game you guys have been talking about but, I would like to just add a little bit to it as i feel that there are a few things that have gone unsaid,
I can understand that from shefford's point of view that anybody causing any kind of unrest any where within the team isn't good for anybody least of all the manager
I can also say that from conversations we had before preseason training started we all had decided that it was unfair to smurf to let him run the club and to take it forward totally on his own as, from his own omission it wasn't fair and it was a very difficult task for him last season,
after having talking to grundy way before the accutual start of the season, I thought things were going to change this season, with shane and paul both having an input into training and also being behind the scenes in some part, being in contact with smurf on availability of players, fitness of players, attitude of players, as for i can see it, unfortunatly for smurf he has no idea of what goes on in training.
I just thought I would add my comments and in no way is this detremental to anybody, Shefford is a great club with alot of history, and most of it has been fantastic, I just just hope that it continues to go from strength to strength.
I can understand that from shefford's point of view that anybody causing any kind of unrest any where within the team isn't good for anybody least of all the manager
I can also say that from conversations we had before preseason training started we all had decided that it was unfair to smurf to let him run the club and to take it forward totally on his own as, from his own omission it wasn't fair and it was a very difficult task for him last season,
after having talking to grundy way before the accutual start of the season, I thought things were going to change this season, with shane and paul both having an input into training and also being behind the scenes in some part, being in contact with smurf on availability of players, fitness of players, attitude of players, as for i can see it, unfortunatly for smurf he has no idea of what goes on in training.
I just thought I would add my comments and in no way is this detremental to anybody, Shefford is a great club with alot of history, and most of it has been fantastic, I just just hope that it continues to go from strength to strength.
Well the new player Dave (prison officer) last night said that Lewis' header was one of the best goals you'll ever see in Sunday footy, so it must have been a bit special.
He also said that if we fancy it one evening for training that he can get us into the prison where he works, floodlit pitch and all that. Sounds good, he's gonna try and set it up for some time in November.
Still needs a lot of effort, but feels like we're starting to get back to the type of Shefford I know and love. Especially if while we're in the prison I can lock Crabbeman and Lewis in a cage and then have someone set the Riot Alarm off...
He also said that if we fancy it one evening for training that he can get us into the prison where he works, floodlit pitch and all that. Sounds good, he's gonna try and set it up for some time in November.
Still needs a lot of effort, but feels like we're starting to get back to the type of Shefford I know and love. Especially if while we're in the prison I can lock Crabbeman and Lewis in a cage and then have someone set the Riot Alarm off...
Beer, at one of the only training sessions I missed... There's some sort of hidden agenda here!
If I'd known that I'd have told the girlfriends mum to stick her birthday.
Actually, there probably were two goal of the season contenders - based on our goals so far! A superb glancing header from Lewis after a quality ball from Wayne. It was probably one of those goals you needed to see to appreciate how good it was!
Also, a superb team goal scored by Ben, 10+ passes that's started off at the back, though the midfield, out wide, and a cracking finish from a tight angle.
....and... Yes, Lewis scored two from outside the area, a bullet from about 35 yards after about 30 seconds of the game, and the header I think was just outside. It was a long 'glancing' header!
I know your busy Mr. Sills, but when are we going to see you again?
* No I don't miss you, or your skills, pace, wind assisted goals or even your gay Arsenal tops. I just wondered.
If I'd known that I'd have told the girlfriends mum to stick her birthday.
Actually, there probably were two goal of the season contenders - based on our goals so far! A superb glancing header from Lewis after a quality ball from Wayne. It was probably one of those goals you needed to see to appreciate how good it was!
Also, a superb team goal scored by Ben, 10+ passes that's started off at the back, though the midfield, out wide, and a cracking finish from a tight angle.
....and... Yes, Lewis scored two from outside the area, a bullet from about 35 yards after about 30 seconds of the game, and the header I think was just outside. It was a long 'glancing' header!
I know your busy Mr. Sills, but when are we going to see you again?
* No I don't miss you, or your skills, pace, wind assisted goals or even your gay Arsenal tops. I just wondered.
I know I know, I was working until 7 though!
11-0 it might have been , but were there two goal of the season contenders (1 winner, jointly with another of mine)? Did anyone score two from outside the area after the manager had been heard to say to his friend before the game 'this lad cant shoot'? Was there a race to the corner flag after the first goal with the person last there buying beer for everyone?
11-0 it might have been , but were there two goal of the season contenders (1 winner, jointly with another of mine)? Did anyone score two from outside the area after the manager had been heard to say to his friend before the game 'this lad cant shoot'? Was there a race to the corner flag after the first goal with the person last there buying beer for everyone?
If you'd got off your seemingly Scottish arse and come to training last night Mr Sills, there would have been a Bellamy-bought beer waiting for you. I bought some nicely chilled cans of lager for after training to celebrate the squad getting a club record victory on Sunday with the 11-0 humiliation of Coopers Arms. Beats our wind-assisted 11-1 over Shalbourne and even beats our 16-0 farce against the side who's name I can't remember because they folded immediately after that game so the result was taken away from us (shouldn't really count it anyway as they only had 7 players on the pitch and their goalkeeper spent 70% of the game lent up against the post having an asthma attack...
I scored 6.
I scored 6.
Ok. Sounds like at least things are a bit more open. Thanks Ads and Matt for being honest, better for everyone to say what they mean. I really hope you're not bitter Grundy, as you're a decent bloke and it'd be a shame to have a wedge driven between "you and us", does nobody any good.
I think the reason the senior players might be reacting more is that they've seen a similar(ish) situation before with a bloke who was manager and then had an argument with our then keeper and turned into this horrible, poisonous bloke that tried to tear us apart. It was horrible, for everyone, and we lost 2 players as a result, one of them just quit footy altogether! And that was mainly from talking to players behind people's backs and on the sidelines saying that "that's not the way I wanted to run things..." and picking on the guys who had been picked as sub because they're and easy target - stuff like that. It was awful and the club nearly folded. None of us will let that happen again.
So if you find us being a bit sensitive that'll be the underlying reason - none of us want to see anyone, at all, undermining the manager and playing people off against each other - there's no fun in it. We vote a manager in and they have a season before the next vote, if they fuck it up we all share the responsibility (as we did last season) because we had a say in it at the beginning and have another say at the end.
But if we can get past it that'd be the best thing. And if you really want to be a part of the set up then come back in. Because of the positions you play you might find your playing chances limited this season (don't take that as a pop, my playing chances are even less and I'm fucking excellent) but at the end of the season, like every season, everybody gets a vote for who they want to be next season's manager. If you're happy finding another club where you'll get more footy, completely understand, mebbe we'll see you in a cup final.
Made myself laugh there, we're crap at cup finals.
Anyway, if you're not signed for anyone this Sunday and you're coming down to watch the game, I'll buy you a beer after the game. That's meant for Grundy, not anyone reading this post...
I think the reason the senior players might be reacting more is that they've seen a similar(ish) situation before with a bloke who was manager and then had an argument with our then keeper and turned into this horrible, poisonous bloke that tried to tear us apart. It was horrible, for everyone, and we lost 2 players as a result, one of them just quit footy altogether! And that was mainly from talking to players behind people's backs and on the sidelines saying that "that's not the way I wanted to run things..." and picking on the guys who had been picked as sub because they're and easy target - stuff like that. It was awful and the club nearly folded. None of us will let that happen again.
So if you find us being a bit sensitive that'll be the underlying reason - none of us want to see anyone, at all, undermining the manager and playing people off against each other - there's no fun in it. We vote a manager in and they have a season before the next vote, if they fuck it up we all share the responsibility (as we did last season) because we had a say in it at the beginning and have another say at the end.
But if we can get past it that'd be the best thing. And if you really want to be a part of the set up then come back in. Because of the positions you play you might find your playing chances limited this season (don't take that as a pop, my playing chances are even less and I'm fucking excellent) but at the end of the season, like every season, everybody gets a vote for who they want to be next season's manager. If you're happy finding another club where you'll get more footy, completely understand, mebbe we'll see you in a cup final.
Made myself laugh there, we're crap at cup finals.
Anyway, if you're not signed for anyone this Sunday and you're coming down to watch the game, I'll buy you a beer after the game. That's meant for Grundy, not anyone reading this post...
You need some paragraphs in that last post Grundy, lost my place every time I blinked!
I understand what your saying mate, and everyone appreciates your input and commitment to pre-season, and last year (inc. Newquay T-Shirts etc), you took some good training sessions and ran the friendlys well. There was obviously some confusion over what part you were expecting/expected to play after pre-season - but that's obviously between you and Smurf.
I will say that I heard a lot of moaning coming from the side of the pitch while I was warming up, ok you came down to support the team, but talking to players, especially the new ones about unrest within the camp before a game isn't very helpful to game preparation! Also puts the club in bad light to the new players, as if this happens a lot, when in fact this is the first time we've had problem since I signed for Shefford. One thing I've always loved about Shefford is the team spirit amongst the squad, which unfortunately has been slightly lacking over the last year or so, but we're slowly getting it back....
I think it came as a shock to everyone when you left, no one expected it, nor wanted it. But it was a decision you made, and I'm not sure why you were expecting people to call you to change your mind. If you weren't positive you wanted to leave, there were many other ways you could have tackled the problem.
No one feels threatened by you coming to watch games! Or if they do, your welcome to every game. You saw the 11-0 performance - take any credit from that game you want!
We're all mates, nothings changed - I for one don't mind if you want to watch games, although if your signing for The Red House I'd imagine your be occupied most Sundays, running the line etc....
It's blown over as far as I'm concerned and I'm looking forward to a good season ahead.
(This is where we shake hands....Acccccch - spit - Shake!)
P.s. The running the line comment was a joke! Maybe...
No, it was really....!
Bye.
I understand what your saying mate, and everyone appreciates your input and commitment to pre-season, and last year (inc. Newquay T-Shirts etc), you took some good training sessions and ran the friendlys well. There was obviously some confusion over what part you were expecting/expected to play after pre-season - but that's obviously between you and Smurf.
I will say that I heard a lot of moaning coming from the side of the pitch while I was warming up, ok you came down to support the team, but talking to players, especially the new ones about unrest within the camp before a game isn't very helpful to game preparation! Also puts the club in bad light to the new players, as if this happens a lot, when in fact this is the first time we've had problem since I signed for Shefford. One thing I've always loved about Shefford is the team spirit amongst the squad, which unfortunately has been slightly lacking over the last year or so, but we're slowly getting it back....
I think it came as a shock to everyone when you left, no one expected it, nor wanted it. But it was a decision you made, and I'm not sure why you were expecting people to call you to change your mind. If you weren't positive you wanted to leave, there were many other ways you could have tackled the problem.
No one feels threatened by you coming to watch games! Or if they do, your welcome to every game. You saw the 11-0 performance - take any credit from that game you want!
We're all mates, nothings changed - I for one don't mind if you want to watch games, although if your signing for The Red House I'd imagine your be occupied most Sundays, running the line etc....
It's blown over as far as I'm concerned and I'm looking forward to a good season ahead.
(This is where we shake hands....Acccccch - spit - Shake!)
P.s. The running the line comment was a joke! Maybe...
No, it was really....!
Bye.
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